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Rhetoric persuasion and Platonic objection The rhetoric produces persuasion according to Plato without there being a dialectical reasoning that can proves it, so the philosopher (whose part is played usually by Socrates) is often focused on finding the correct path from a concept using objections and assumptions to prove , and the sophist Gorgias from Leontini (about 483-375 BC) is one of the reference rhetoricians against whom demonstrate the potential of the maieutic. But after reading the dialogue dedicated to him it seems that the long-lived Gorgias said: "With what art Plato knows tease", in fact, the real protagonist of the animated discussion is his disciple Callicles that at some point (praised in this sincere attitude from Socrates) throws the mask supporting the right of the strongest to prevail over the weaker, crush him, being guided by the pleasure in meeting their needs, while always for Plato the philosophy look as a guide the harmony and the well. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Oct 18, 2012 
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 Free Platonic teaching In his dialogues Plato explains how the teaching should enrich and not impoverish and the character of Socrates engaged with various partners to demonstrate the dialectic of the validity of a given argument is not driven by money but by the desire to know, then that would be the philosophy itself; moreover in this slow and difficult path of knowledge is just part of the premise of not knowing and every small step is a new discovery. To note that Thales (about 624-548 BC) by Plato considered one of the seven wise men and the first to suggest an archè as the principle of all things (the water in a metaphysical sense) and the immortal soul, free teaching astronomy that allowed him to predict eclipses and used to say: "It is adequate reward if you say you have learned from me", although some sources describe him as a man who made substantial gains thanks to his knowledge. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Sep 12, 2012 n: 2000 Assumptions and Platonic art In order to investigate the reality Plato (427 - 347 BC) placed at the base of the premises of the reasoning that must come up till the ideas, with a requirement of other premises in a logical sequence based on the dialectic and then the dialogue made on formulations of questions and rebuttals to a genuine partner, since obviously a statue can not answer, so the art can not be philosophy, and even a portrait that reproduces likely an individual can give the impression of referring to an ideal, but according to the philosopher does not nothing that a dumb copy of a copy of the idea. Even the poet is put "mildly" outside of the ideal Platonic state, since in the majority of cases it is a sophist (a rhetorician) which serves only of tricks and artifices to achieve its purposes, while the real investigation is based on the assumption that can demonstrate with valid arguments at all times. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Aug 18, 2012 n: 1978 Platonic awareness The reasoning of philosophy in Plato are not made to please people, but to confirm the path to small steps that get with the dialectic or Socratic maieutics, then seeks the best rather than pleasant, and therefore being placed in front of an audience to reward for example those who prepared unhealthy delicious meals and unlike disapprove those who of administering smaller and bitter portions aimed at being an effective well-being there is also the awareness that will necessarily accept this attitude. In case of judgment the philosophy will not being able to use the whole series of tricks that rhetoricians use for to obtain reason and may find in complete difficult, in condition to be easily stripped and condemned by wicked and vulgar men who serve these property to act unjustly, and so consequently ugly and badly. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Jul 02, 2012 n: 1936 Platonic dialectics rebuttal The difference between the rebuttal that use the rhetoricians for to be right and that used by the philosophy to get closer to the truth according to Plato (427 - 347 BC) is in the method of investigation, because, as for example in the court orators can achieve the goal calling several witnesses to testify against a few, the dialectic disproving every incorrect aspect of the various number of arguments can find the paths to follow, using own the opponent's claims. The rhetoricians can also get right using a series of tricks that can maybe provide pleasure, but in most cases their arguments do not coincide with an effective well and in Plato's dialogues the figure of Socrates usually dissects the building constructed by rhetoricians whose benefits are not effective or do not lead to the Good and therefore should not do injustice and to resort to deceptive stratagems of various kinds. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: May 21, 2012 n: 1900 See and participation of the Platonic ideas Participation for Plato is a kind of relationship with the world of ideas located outside of the human reach and from which they arise or are connected with the idea of Good is located at the top and all ideas are positioned (as also supported by St. Augustine) in the mind of God and for this reason we should always act according to principles of justice and virtue who later all participate to the idea of well, but there is also a dark force that hinders the positive human action said "necessity". In countering the thought of so-called sophists is proposed the example of the philosopher Socrates, who does not accept the method of rhetoricians who manage to get the better of just using tricks like flattery to convince the listener not so instructed (the mob) and sacrificed himself showing that with the dialectic is always possible to bring out the true from any argument by involving the ideas with a connection method. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: May 08, 2012 n: 1888 Early origin of the Platonic ideas According to Plato (and Socrates) would exist in the world of the rational principles as models that regulate the growth and development of any organism and the shape of the universe existed in a separate world of ideas, higher immutable models, but this concept with a human thought that transcends all things had already been hypothesized from Parmenides who is credited with that kind of turning point in the path of philosophy, though probably this important leap was favored by a substrate already present in the Italic peoples who lived in the area of Elea that attributing the first use of the dialectic. The same mathematical and astronomical knowledge, essential in the field of philosophy, used in the Magna Greece were derived from the Assyrians-Babylonians, in fact, is the sexagesimal system, is the distinction between planets and stars, and relatives names, the calculations of solstices and equinoxes were a their conquest. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Apr 26, 2012 n: 1879 A slow way to the development of the ideas of Plato A part of the small qualitative leap that some attributed to Parmenides in that sort of slow pathway for the development of the doctrine of ideas that in Plato finds his representative chief (at least from the written remains since there are only fragments of Anaxagoras and Socrates did not leave nothing in writing) should keep in mind that the goal of own philosophy tended to find a principle that could reduce the multiplicity to the unity and hence the need for a concept as the essence of things that could almost bring order to the multiplicity of diverse material things in perpetual becoming. The Pythagoreans also considered harmonious balance of opposites that had a relationship with the numbers in the sense of a succession of points and then the rhythm which regulated the cosmos, but Plato with a further development puts all these categories in a transcendent ideal sphere of thought and probably using the dialectic as a means of investigation succed to find a path on which to focus his research that are not influenced by the material reality and point directly to the concept underlying all things. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Apr 11, 2012 n: 1867 Platonic doubts The philosophy of Plato (427 - 347 BC) has at times points difficult to understand or that leave the reader with the question of what is the true meaning of the survey on a given topic, and in a dialogue about the teachable or less of the virtue first shows clearly that it is exercisable but actually innate, and then eventually leave the alternative of a possible education for the virtue, probably almost a kind of provocation to stimulate independent thinking that continues to research (which is then the goal of the philosophy). Other types of questions even more stringent facing on those of dialogue that is not certain the Platonic attribution and in which the critics has identified several deficiencies that are sometimes easily recognizable, while others are really hard to understand if the text is original or is not an imitation of the dialectic technique even if the idea as "concept" in theory should have no doubts. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Feb 14, 2012 n: 1818 Platonic solids and geometric harmony The knowledge and research through the study of harmony, mathematics, geometry and music are by Plato (427 - 347 BC) to be favored for the philosopher who should also observe the connections between the various sciences, such as astronomy and music that would be sisters, then geometry as a basis for formation of the universe with perfect polygons including the tetrahedron formed by triangles, in fact, three is the beginning of the end and in practice of what in nature has a beginning, a middle and an end. The solids that some call Platonic are actually Pythagoreans as derivations of concepts, but the two schools of thought have almost merged in the time and therefore it is difficult to make a precise distinction, even if for Plato is more important the idea as a method of inquiry that the number and all calculations should be in harmony with the philosophy in a network, without neglecting the exercise of "materials" disciplines such as gymnastics and rhythmic movement. e-mail: info@salutary.eu Tel: +39 338 1809310 Date: Jan 13, 2012 n: 1789 Soul - training * The author doesn't assume some kind of responsibility for the bad use of the articles councils (all rights are reserved) |
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